iPhone 16 Pro rumored to get hugely better ultra-wide sensor & optical zoom

This would be nice. I don’t need a bigger screen. I just want the 5X. Going with the Pro and not the Pro Max would also save me a few bucks.

just please give me anything that is not camera related.
it seems that's the only thing they keep focusing on
2 cameras. now 3 cameras, now 4 cameras
we are not all professional photographers. 
i take pics i usually see on my iphone screen or on my ipad
i don't need terrapixel quality with 99x optical zoom , and carl zeis diamond quartz lens
 with a huge camera bump on the back that makes the phone rock when i put it on a table

Should note note that the "zoom" isn't really an optical zoom from my perspective. It's either at one end of the range or the other. There's no optical in-between.

hmlongco said:

Should note note that the "zoom" isn't really an optical zoom from my perspective. It's either at one end of the range or the other. There's no optical in-between.

I don't know why AppleInsider--which knows better--and many others in the tech press keep referring to iPhone Pro lenses as "optical zoom." They are not. Each iPhone Pro model contains three FIXED FOCAL LENGTH LENSES. Their focal lengths, as full-frame equivalents, are 13mm for the ultrawide, 24mm for the main/wide and 77mm for the telephoto on the iPhone Pro and 120mm for the tetraprism telephoto on the 15 Pro Max. Each lens covers a range of focal lengths through sensor cropping and computational photography--there is no optical zoom capability in any iPhone lens. The ultrawide lens covers the 13mm-23mm range. The main lens kicks in at 24mm and then covers up to 76mm on the Pro and 119mm on the Pro Max. The telephoto lens covers 77mm and up on the Pro and 120mm and up on the Pro Max. 

Optical zoom lenses, as the name clearly states, change their focal lengths and achieve zoom capability through optics -- i.e., a variety of precise optical elements within the lens that move with great precision to provide the "equivalent" of many fixed focal length lenses in a single lens. In actual practice, an optical zoom lens will not achieve the same quality as a fixed focal length "prime" lens because optical zoom requires optical compromises, but the convenience of zoom sure beats toting a trunk full of prime lenses. 

kmarei said:

just please give me anything that is not camera related.
it seems that's the only thing they keep focusing on
2 cameras. now 3 cameras, now 4 cameras
we are not all professional photographers. 
i take pics i usually see on my iphone screen or on my ipad
i don't need terrapixel quality with 99x optical zoom , and carl zeis diamond quartz lens
 with a huge camera bump on the back that makes the phone rock when i put it on a table

Good that you don't need to upgrade then. For many of us, the camera is the single most important feature and a core function of the phone. And yes. We look at photos on screens far larger than an iPad and sometimes want to high-quality prints. In addition, any improvement to the optical zoom would be greatly appreciated.