AGI has reported its financial results for the first quarter of 2024, revealing a mixed performance with a 9% decrease in revenues but a 4% increase in adjusted EBITDA to $50 million. Despite challenging market conditions in the farm segment, particularly in the US, Brazil, and Australia, the company remains optimistic about its commercial segment and overall performance for the year. AGI is focused on profitable organic growth, operational excellence, and maintaining balance sheet discipline, aiming to achieve a net debt leverage ratio of 2.5 or lower by the end of 2024.
Key Takeaways
- AGI's Q1 revenue fell by 9%, but adjusted EBITDA grew by 4% to $50 million.
- The farm segment revenue increased by 4%, with adjusted EBITDA up by 17%.
- Commercial segment revenue declined by 24%, with a 40% drop in adjusted EBITDA.
- The company expects dealer inventory levels to improve by Q3.
- AGI reaffirms its full-year adjusted EBITDA guidance of at least $310 million.
- The company plans significant CapEx investment in India for 2025, aiming to expand capacity and capabilities.
- AGI is confident in reducing its net debt leverage ratio to below 2.5 by the end of 2024.
Company Outlook
- AGI remains positive about its 2024 outlook, expecting profitable growth despite Q1 challenges.
- A strong order book supports the company's confidence in meeting its full-year guidance.
- Growth initiatives in emerging markets and product transfers are key to AGI's strategy.
- The company expects to achieve its target net debt leverage ratio by 2024.
Bearish Highlights
- Market conditions in the farm segment are expected to negatively impact Q2 performance.
- The commercial segment's delayed projects have impacted Q1 results.
- AGI anticipates a decline in first-half adjusted EBITDA compared to the previous year.
Bullish Highlights
- AGI's commercial segment is well-positioned for growth in the latter half of the year.
- The company's operational excellence initiatives are expected to offset margin pressures.
- Expansion in India and product transfers are projected to increase AGI's total addressable market.
Misses
- The company experienced a slowdown in farmer purchases, leading to higher dealer inventory levels and softer order intake.
- Margins in the commercial segment contracted, reflecting the impact of project delays.
Q&A Highlights
- Paul Householder discussed the factors influencing Q1 performance and future expectations.
- The company has no fundamental or structural concerns and is managing supply chain risks effectively.
- AGI is focused on expanding its parts and service business, starting in North America, with plans to extend to Brazil.
AGI (ticker AGI) has reiterated its commitment to managing working capital and improving cash flow. The company's disciplined approach to capital expenditure, with planned investments in India and ERP systems, is expected to contribute to a debt-to-EBITDA ratio below 2.5 times by the end of 2024. AGI's recent safety week and the emphasis on collaboration across the organization underscore the company's efforts to foster a positive culture and operational efficiency. With a strong order book and a strategic focus on emerging markets, AGI is poised to navigate the global food supply chain's challenges and opportunities.
InvestingPro Insights
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Full transcript - Ag Growth Inc Fd (AGGZF) Q1 2024:
Operator: Thank you for standing by. This is the conference operator. Welcome to the AGI First Quarter Results Conference Call and Webcast. As a reminder, all participants are in listen-only mode and the conference is being recorded. After the presentation, there will be an opportunity for analysts to ask questions. [Operator Instructions] I would now like to turn the conference over to Paul Householder, President and CEO of AGI. Please go ahead, sir.
Paul Householder: Thank you, operator. Good morning and welcome to AGI's first quarter 2024 results call. I'm joined today by our CFO, Jim Rudyk. I'll start the call with a review of our results, then turn the call to Jim for additional commentary on the quarter. Following our prepared remarks, the call will be open for questions. To start today's call, I will begin with a few customary comments on safety and AGI. Now, firmly established as an important tradition at AGI, our Annual Safety Week is held each year in April. This is the fourth year holding the event, which includes full representation from all of the AGI facilities worldwide. The theme this year is safer acts and safer conditions. While we have made great progress in the KPIs we use to track safety performance, we remain vigilant about enhancing safety at AGI each and every day. I would like to briefly transition and address an important topic we are excited to share, AGI's purpose and mission. These are critical concepts that galvanize our teams internally and guide perception and understanding externally. At AGI, our purpose is to fundamentally support the elimination of food loss and hunger. At the end of the day, this is AGI's contribution to the world we all live in and share. To achieve this purpose, we must execute our mission. We encapsulate our mission statement as to advance storage, handling, and processing solutions that strengthen and secure the global food supply chain. We believe this is a compelling and worthwhile call to action for all our employees, customers, and shareholders. From a capital markets perspective, we believe our purpose and mission tie into a succinct statement to describe to AGI's current business, key underlying drivers, and our contribution to sustainability and societal objectives, a global food security pure play. We take our purpose and mission seriously and use it as one of several lenses, which guide our decision-making as an organization. Prior to providing a recap of our key strategic priorities and the KPIs we use to track progress and performance, I'd like to make a few comments on the market conditions we are observing across the globe. We are increasingly seeing challenging conditions within the farm market, specifically in the U.S., Brazil, and Australia, which will have a negative impact on second quarter performance. We are closely monitoring these conditions and are adjusting regional operations as appropriate. There will be better visibility to the global farm segment as we move into the second half of the year. Offsetting the outlook and cautious view in our farm business, our commercial business is well-positioned to outperform enabled by key strategic growth initiatives, including the focus on emerging markets and progressing product transfers. Based on the composition of the order book, the commercial segment performance is weighted to the second half of the year. Our current outlook for the year remains positive as further detailed in a review of our corporate priorities, including profitable organic growth, operational excellence, and balance sheet discipline. For profitable organic growth, first quarter revenue dipped relative to the prior year, while EBITDA increased direction with expectations in terms of 2024 results being biased to the second half of the year. Overall, our near-record order book continues to reinforce the prospect of full year growth and achievement of our guidance. Adjusted EBITDA growth will be weighted towards our commercial business and supported by a continued operational excellence focus. For operational excellence, the first quarter continued to solidify our sustained performance at heightened margins, up over 200 basis points relative to prior year. With the first quarter typically being our lowest margin quarter, we are committed to sustaining overall margin levels towards the 19% range on a full year basis. For balance sheet discipline, we remain on track to achieve our target net debt leverage ratio in 2024. Through Q1, the ratio remained below 3 times level and is a notable improvement over the 3.6 times level from the first quarter of last year. Moving ahead with a review of our first quarter performance by segment. Strength in the farm segment within the quarter was offset by timing of our commercial segment, which is currently focused on upfront design, engineering, and manufacturing work to accommodate a sizable order book weighted towards second half delivery. Our first quarter results show the extent and consistency of the margin levels that AGI can deliver. With revenue lower than prior year, adjusted EBITDA improved 4% year-over-year to the support of over 200 basis points of margin expansion. Improved gross margins from operational excellence initiatives implemented throughout 2023, and overall cost discipline supported this result. Exiting the quarter, our order book was up approximately 12%, an extremely encouraging position given the challenging market conditions across the farm segment and underscoring the resiliency of our business. We have and are continuing to adjust our farm business operations, leveraging our centralized demand planning and revenue management processes and integrated supply chain and manufacturing teams. Within our commercial segment, global demand remained strong, order intake was favorable, and the pipeline is robust. This is indicative of a broad level of positive performance across our EMEA, India, Southeast Asia, U.S., and Brazil commercial businesses. We continue to work closely with our valued commercial customers to partner on delivering projects flawlessly. Turning to a review of revenue results and trends across our segments and geographies. Overall, first quarter farm segment revenue grew by 4% year-over-year. In our Canada Farm segment, revenue declined 2% versus prior year. This segment faced a very challenging comparable period from the first quarter of 2023. Within the quarter, strong demand for our portable grain handling equipment continued to drive results. In our U.S. farm segment, revenue was flat versus prior year with an even mix of contributions from portable and permanent grain handling equipment sales. Order intake was soft through the quarter as farmers monitor the outlook for the upcoming crop. U.S. farm is a key market for us and as outlined earlier, we are carefully monitoring market conditions, making adjustments across the business as necessary. Our international farm segment posted an increase in revenue of 41% versus prior year. Strong results in Brazil from key project deliveries helped support results and offset some weakness from other areas, notably Australia. Based on market conditions and our order book mix, we expect Brazil to be weighted more towards commercial as the year progresses. However, we've recently announced some key financing programs and options for farm segment customers in Brazil, a new sales tool we plan to fully leverage across all channels to help combat overall difficult operating conditions. Now, turning to commercial segment results. Our Canadian commercial segment faced difficult conditions throughout the first quarter. Customers are moving cautiously and timing of new projects is unclear in many instances. The team is focused on building our pipeline and continuing in-depth discussions with customers about their plans, keeping AGI well-positioned to win orders as projects eventually move forward. Our U.S. commercial segment fared better than Canada, though still down slightly year-over-year. Healthy customer demand for grain handling and storage equipment and resurging demand for fertilizer equipment was offset by a slower result in the food side of our commercial business. Lower food performance was due to challenges faced during order execution. Overall, demand for our food products and solutions remains strong. The food order book is up approximately 35%, outpacing overall order book growth, providing a solid setup for increasing momentum into the second quarter and second half as initiatives to improve order execution are implemented. The International commercial segment result was driven largely by project timing. The order book for international is extremely strong broadly across EMEA, Brazil, and India. All regions have directly benefited from our strategic growth initiatives. EMEA has increased focus on achieving positive results across emerging markets, specifically Middle East and Africa. India and Brazil have been a key focus for product transfers, gaining significant traction within fertilizer, grain storage, and material handling solutions. The positive outlook for our second half remains as projects progress through execution and move into delivery. As we enter the second quarter and look ahead for the rest of the year, we remain squarely focused on key near-term objectives that will enable us to continue growing the business throughout 2024 and beyond. I'll provide a few comments on each and note the items included here are presented in no particular order. Executing the commercial order book. We have an exciting mix of larger scale projects, particularly in our international regions, which we are focused on executing to plan. Successful commissioning of these projects will serve as a value reference sites, further supporting order pipeline development activity. Completing initial set of product transfers. Our first wave of product transfers continues to progress with several now transitioning into execution and order delivery, particularly in India and Brazil. We continue to focus on and support these product transfers to ensure they are fully ramped up in advance of moving on to other priorities, including potential net new product transfer initiatives. Monitoring North America farm market. As noted above and in our disclosure, we are carefully monitoring customer behavior in this critical market, anticipating a challenging Q2, while proactively working through scenarios to swiftly react to a range of market outcomes. Cash flow focus. We have steadily increased focus on our cash flow metrics to ensure we are fully capturing the benefits of our growing EBITDA. We are reviewing potential KPIs in this area to ensure we are transparent and accountable to all parties on how we are performing. Achieving target balance sheet metrics. As mentioned earlier, we are now under 3 times leverage and are confident that reaching 2.5 or lower is achievable in 2024, most likely in the second half of the year. Sustaining margin performance. We are confident that AGI has stepped up into a new bracket of margin performance through the benefit of our operational excellence capabilities. The higher commercial segment mix and softening North America farm business is a headwind to overall consolidated margins, though overall, we expect full year margins to be relatively consistent with 2023. 2025 India expansion. Finally, we continue preparations and detailed planning for an eventual India expansion investment. Having secured land for a future site, we are steadily progressing detailed plans for a new facility, anticipating additional spending and groundbreaking in 2025. Overall, we are encouraged with how we are currently positioned with the value of our diversified and resilient business model clearly on display in both our results and our outlook. Against the backdrop of tightening conditions in certain farm markets, our ability to deliver adjusted EBITDA growth and meaningful margin expansion in Q1, along with a strong order book and favorable full year outlook is exceptional. Before handing the call over to Jim, I'd like to reiterate our commitment to delivering a strong 2024, successfully navigating both the challenges and opportunities in front of us. We have an exceptional global team focused on providing value to our customer partners through an extensive product line, rigorous project execution, and increasingly streamlined operations. AGI will continue to benefit from the growing importance of food security and building a highly functioning and efficient global food supply chain, a critical trend that is important to each and every one of us. I will now hand the call over to Jim.
James Rudyk: Thank you, Paul, and good morning everyone. For today's call, I'll touch on four areas, including an overview of our first quarter results, an update on key balance sheet metrics, a few comments on cash flow, and finally, a recap of our outlook for the remainder of the year. On a consolidated basis, first quarter revenues of $315 million decreased 9% over last year's record first quarter results. The trend in expanding gross margins continued from previous quarters and combined with ongoing SG&A cost containment improvements to drive approximately 200 basis points of adjusted EBITDA margin expansion. Overall, adjusted EBITDA of $50 million grew 4% in the quarter and clearly demonstrates the resilience of our business. Our farm segment delivered $189 million in revenue, growing 4% year-over-year. Adjusted EBITDA of $45 million grew 17% year-over-year, with margins expanding by approximately 275 basis points to 24%. Similar to recent quarters, the margin result was a combination of operational excellence initiatives as well as the product mix tilted towards our portable grain handling equipment. In the commercial segment, revenues of $126 million were down 24% year-over-year. Adjusted EBITDA of $13 million declined 40% year-over-year with margins contracting roughly 275 basis points to 10.5%. Project timing impacted the quarter, and we are looking ahead to the remainder of the year, where we move into execution and delivery of our sizable commercial order book, particularly in international regions. Moving on to our balance sheet. We continue to make consistent and meaningful progress on our working capital metrics and key leverage ratios, clear indicators of the structural improvements we are making to how we manage the business. From a balance sheet perspective, we remain disciplined with our credit facility usage. Our net debt leverage ratio of 2.9 times in the quarter marked a significant improvement from 3.6 year-over-year and is our second consecutive quarter under the 3.0 level. As noted in our last quarterly call, the first quarter required some inventory investment in connection with our commercial order book. We plan for this to normalize as we move into the second half of the year and execute on order deliveries. We are well on track to achieve our stated objective of 2.5 times in 2024, most likely in the second half of the year. Turning to working capital investment, which continues to be a key focus across the organization. Our net investment of $223 million in the first quarter was up from $191 million year-over-year. On an annualized percentage of sales basis, working capital intensity increased from 14% to 18% year-over-year. However, this comparable period analysis includes the impact of the accruals related to large non-recurring provisions, which have since been settled. Normalizing for this would demonstrate a clear improvement in our total net working capital investment and a stable performance as a percentage of revenue. Managing working capital is a priority and we continue to strive for further improvement to ensure we can grow the business without an excess working capital drag. However, it is worth repeating that the makeup of our order book may require us to temporarily invest strategically in working capital in the first half of 2024. The overall underlying trend still points to a clear and ongoing improvement. Connected to our success in managing the balance sheet and optimizing business performance is our progress on managing cash flow. Funds from operation of $31 million was up over 47% from $21 million in the first quarter of last year, driven primarily by a reduction in cash taxes. Funds from operations as a percentage of adjusted EBITDA continues to trend higher, indicative of improving conversion of adjusted EBITDA into cash flow. Finally, turning to our outlook. We are pleased to reaffirm our previously stated adjusted EBITDA guidance for 2024 of at least $310 million. This is supported by a near record order book level that's generally weighted towards commercial. While our overall outlook for the full year has not changed, we have observed a trend in commercial project timing, which has further shifted expected deliveries into the second half of the year. As a result, we expect all of the full year 2024 adjusted EBITDA growth over 2023 to occur in the second half of 2024 with first half 2024 adjusted EBITDA results generally expected to be down relative to first half 2023. On balance, the outlook continues to remain bright for AGI. And with that, I'll hand the call back to the operator and open up the lines for questions.
Operator: Thank you. We will now begin the analyst question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] Our first question is from Jacob Bout with CIBC. Please go ahead.
Jacob Bout: Good morning.
Paul Householder: Hey Jacob.
Jacob Bout: So, you're maintaining your annual EBITDA guidance, but yet it seems you're a bit more cautious about farm, both in U.S. and Brazil. What's the offset? Is it higher margins? It sounds like you're basically maintaining your margin guidance? Or is it more commercial work?
Paul Householder: Yes. Jacob, thanks for the question. And we absolutely remain confident on our ability to continue to grow this year with a lot of that focus, as you rightfully point out, bias to the second half. What's underscoring. There's really a couple of things that are underscoring our confidence in delivering that growth. The first one, as we highlighted in our prepared remarks, our order book I mean sitting here today with our order book up 12%, we'd be extremely excited about that in any condition. So we certainly view that as an exceptional position to be in this year. Yes. The second one, we're seeing very positive results relative to our strategy. Our focus on growth and the specific levers that we had in place, namely the product transfers and emerging markets. This was a keen focus for us across 2023, and we made a number of moves to prepare ourselves to support growth. And now we're seeing those play out very favorably, and that's reflected in our commercial order book with a bias to international. And it's specifically around the initiatives that we put in place in India and Brazil and the projects that we won at the end of 2023. So those items are certainly giving us the confidence that we're going to be able to deliver to our current guidance. And I'd say the third one, Jacob, is just the team and the talent and the capabilities that we have in place globally. We're very well set up to not only deliver on these exciting projects that we have within our commercial order book but also manage through the situation that we're seeing in the -- in some of the farm segments.
Jacob Bout: Okay. That's helpful. And maybe just my second question here on US farm. This cautiousness that you're seeing, is this across all product lines permanent versus portable?
Paul Householder: Yes, great question, Jacob. And we keep in very close contact with that market with our farmers and with our outstanding dealer partners. Our team spent a lot of time over Q1 traveling out visiting with our farmers visiting with our dealer partners to really get a very insightful and close read on the market. We are seeing that pressure in both the permanent and the portable side, particularly in the US. Jacob One exception, I'd say to that is our portable product line in Canada continues to be quite resilient. The outlook for portable in Canada remains positive, and it's really a close attention on the U.S., both portable and permanent that we're watching. Obviously, as we noted, we'll get better clarity on that in the second half, as we further progress through Q2, we start to get early signs on how the upcoming crop is going to come in as well as keeping a close eye on commodity prices.
Jacob Bout: And what is the US as a percentage of farm? And maybe just if you can comment on how things are going as far as your US dealer conversions and adding new dealers?
Paul Householder: Yes. US Pharma is an important market for us. I'd probably say it's in, say, the 20% to 25% of our total business. And then in terms of dealer conversions, that's obviously been a key strategic lever for us to drive growth within our farm segment. We're building exceptional relationships with those dealers and our upcoming dealer partners I would say it's progressing to plan. We continue to make progress, and we continue to make headway and expect to even across 2024.
Operator: The next question is from Michael Doumet with Scotiabank. Please go ahead.
Michael Doumet: Hey, good morning, guys.
Paul Householder: How you doing, Michael?
Michael Doumet: Doing well. Thank you, Paul. On the -- I guess, first question on the commercial delays, is -- could you maybe expand on the why as those projects were delayed and maybe explain a little bit of confidence as to why you think they reaccelerate in Q3?
Paul Householder: Yes, for sure, Michael. And I would categorize the delay in those commercial projects as really minimal to be candid. I mean, when we were exiting 2023, we had pretty good visibility at that time that our commercial order book was strongly weighted to the second half of the year. So we just saw a little bit of the normal movement from quarter-to-quarter that you often see in commercial. We saw a little bit of that in Q1, which put some pressure on our results in the commercial segment in Q1. Some of that shifted to Q2. That was -- that's a pretty early in the year shift. There's plenty of time for those projects to get executed and delivered. That's why we're confident it's not going to have any material impact on our full year performance for commercial. Our order book in commercial is extremely strong. We're progressing to plan on the execution of those projects. A lot of those are already entering manufacturing. They've progressed through engineering and they're entering manufacturing. So we're literally manufacturing the products now and will continue to do so across Q2 that we will be delivering in Q3 and Q4. So that type of visibility gives us confidence in delivering to our expectations for commercial.
Michael Doumet: Super helpful. And I guess going back to the North American farm, I'm a little curious as to what drove the negative revision versus your expectations just a couple of months ago. If I look at crop prices are weak for, I guess, the last several months. So is it more that you're seeing the weakness on the end user demand? Or is there more destocking at the dealer level that's impacting some of the near-term?
Paul Householder: Yes, for sure, Michael. And as you pointed out, what we're keeping a very close eye on that US segment, spending a lot of time with our customers and our dealer partners. And the change that we observed in Q1 was really at the farmer side and the farmers moving forward with purchases. That didn't -- that was -- that slowed down a bit in Q1. That led to slightly higher inventory levels across our dealers, which ultimately culminated in softer order intake across Q1 than we expected. So in Q2, one of the things that we're watching closely is that dealer inventory. We expect that dealer inventory to start to move across Q2 so that as we enter Q3, we're in a net-net better inventory position at our dealers. And then again, with that visibility on how the crop comes in, any movement in commodity prices, we're noting that they kind of inched up a little bit recently. We'll keep a close eye on that. But those types of indicators will ultimately influence farmer sentiment in the second half of the year. I'll just further comment that some of the feedback that we're getting from farmers right now is certainly biased towards the cautious optimism. So that sentiment resonates right now to the market, and we'll look to continue to keep a good read on it.
Michael Doumet: Perfect. Thanks very much.
Michael Doumet: You got it, Michael.
Operator: The next question is from Steve Hansen with Raymond James. Please go ahead.
Steve Hansen: Yes. Good morning, guys. Thanks for the time. Paul, on the margin front, it sounds like your order book is skewed towards commercial, again, predominantly in the back half. So from a margin cadence perspective, should we expect first half to sort of show a little bit similar to the first quarter or we get some margin improvements and then we have a bit more of a headwind in the back half? Is that the way to think about it?
Paul Householder: Yes. It's a great question, Steve, because you're absolutely right. When you look at our portfolio of products in our different segments, we do see different margin performance across farm and commercial farm typically being higher commercial being slightly lower. So with the increase in the -- in our commercial activity, which we're extremely excited about, that does translate to margin pressure. If we look back at 2023 and the outstanding margin performance that we achieved, the 300 basis points, we always categorize that 200 basis points of that was fundamental moving us from 16% to 18% and about 100 basis points was a tailwind on margins. So now looking out at the full year, that tailwind has shifted to a headwind bias to commercial, putting a little bit of pressure on margins. We look to offset that with continued progress from an operational excellence standpoint. So from a full year, Steve, that's kind of what we're looking at is maintaining consistent margins to prior year, maybe moving in that 18% to 19%-ish range, guiding closer to the 19%. When you look at Q2, I think that's where you're going to see a little bit of softness in our farm segment that we're forecasting impact margins. If you look back to Q2 of 2023, it was extremely strong from a farm basis and specifically from a portable basis. That was one of our higher-margin quarters due to extremely favorable margin mix in prior year, we will not have that margin mix in Q2 of this year.
Steve Hansen: Okay. That's helpful. And then just taking a step back on the organic CapEx story and the site secured overseas. I mean, what is the urgency to move on that? I know you're a long-lead projects, but do we need to spend -- like just maybe just walk us through the capital outlays that we should be expecting over the next year or two? It sounds like it doesn't start until next year really, but what are the plans that we should start to think about in the model going forward?
Paul Householder: Yes. Thanks, Steve. And it is an area that we're extremely excited about. We've commented for a while, the tremendous performance that we've had across our India business. It's just been fantastic growth really since we acquired Milltec over the past four-plus years. And so that's ultimately the drivers for us looking to make that investment. I would say that we're -- we have instilled and will continue to instill a high level of CapEx discipline. So our decision to move forward with the investment in India came with a fair amount of business scrutiny, business evaluation and financial measures. The ultimate drivers on that are two-fold. First is expanding our capacity centric to our rice milling business. We've grown that business substantially. We've largely doubled it or even more so over the past three to four years. We anticipate a continued strong market in the rice milling going forward. So a portion of that justification is manufacturing capacity expansion within rice milling. The second one that we're equally excited about is adding the additional capabilities in India to even better support the product transfers that we've moved down there, the bins, the permanent material handling, the portable material handling as well as future product transfers that we have planned. So we'll add the right manufacturing capabilities built out over time so that we can successfully execute to those product transfers. And net-net, the reason that's so exciting is because it is fundamentally increasing our total addressable market. That's the premise on product transfers. That's what we're seeing playing out in 2024 on the commercial side and is what's going to be a strong growth driver for us in 2025 and beyond. The CapEx spend in India is going to be more weighted to 2025 and will be a multiyear build-out.
Operator: The next question is from Gary Ho with Desjardin Capital Markets.
Gary Ho: Thanks. Good morning. Just a first question on the top line, soft commercial that drove that 9% down year-over-year. And I guess, indirectly, your $310 million EBITDA guidance and flat margins implies top line growing by roughly 5%, 5.5%. Paul, you're monitoring the farm segment for Q2. Are you still kind of expecting full year revenue growth this year? Maybe you can talk about the puts and takes in achieving that.
Paul Householder: Yes. Thanks, Gary. And you got it exactly right. Thanks for the question. We are continuing to watch that farm segment. Our order book being up 12% is a fantastic position to be in. If you look at our farm portion of that order book, we typically give visibility out, say, three to four months on farm and then commercial gives us visibility out, say, six to nine months. Our order book is pretty weighted to the commercial side. That gives us decent visibility out into the second half of the year, and it supports our guidance for both, as you noted, revenue growth and EBITDA growth with stable margins and our guidance to $3.10 and the growth behind that, we would expect to see a similar growth at the top line as well.
Gary Ho: Okay. Perfect. And then my second question, I just wanted to get an update on the product transfer initiative. I think in early February, you provided -- the Street with a $55 million order book number. Just wondering if you know where that stands today, if not like directionally where it is and perhaps where you're seeing some of those orders come in from? And I think in your prepared remarks, you talked about net new product transfer this year, maybe shed some light around that, too?
Paul Householder: Yes, 100%, Gary, thanks so much for the question. As we've commented, we're really excited about product transfers. The key element there is it's organic growth. It falls squarely within our current level of capabilities. And fundamentally, we're growing our TAM globally. And that's going to -- that not only supports our growth in 2024, but it will support our growth for years to come. $55 million that we outlined in our order book directly related to product transfers. That's in India, that's in Brazil predominantly. It is in other areas across the company where we've successfully executed product transfers. It has trended up from when we made that announcement. That is the trend. We expect that trend to continue. We've got a pretty robust pipeline of quoting activity supporting those areas of product transfers and that kind of leads us to the optimism. A lot of our activity right now, our tangible commercial activity is in India in our bins and permanent material handling as well as down in Brazil in our -- with our fertilizer product line. That's kind of driving right now, a lot of our activity. What we expect is closely behind those initiatives is activity in our Feed segment, our recently launched feed segment. We got a lot of exciting projects that we're quoting and customers that we're working with predominantly in Brazil and South Africa in Feed and then portable in India as we not only look to support the Australia market, but grow a portable business in India, which we're pretty excited about. If you look at India, we're making progress in bins, and that product line is starting to move out in the market, we expect bin to be a pull-through for portable as portable becomes a means -- an efficient means in which you load and offload the bins. So I would say that's kind of Tier 2 of product transfers that we suspect will continue to support the growth and increase our order book. And then the next one that we've just recently launched and we're getting more and more excited about. We're moving our digital product line down to Brazil. We've installed trial systems at a few of our key customer locations. We received extremely positive feedback from those customers. That's motivated us to accelerate that effort and that will be an activity that we progress in the second half of this year to position us really well entering 2025.
Gary Ho: Okay. Great. That's great color. Thanks.
Paul Householder: You got it, Gary.
Operator: Next question is from Michael Tupholme with TD Securities. Please go ahead.
Michael Tupholme: Thank you. Good morning.
Paul Householder: Hello, Michael.
Michael Tupholme: Thank you. Maybe, Paul, just to try to circle back on one of the earlier questions. I know you said that on the whole, the commercial segment timing shift wasn't overly material, but just trying to, again, better understand some of the drivers there. I'm not sure if this -- if you can talk a little bit about whether this was a small number of projects or if it was sort of a broader shift, if there are any sort of supply issues at play or any factors to just help us better understand what kind of pushed things back to the second quarter.
Paul Householder: Yes. Thanks for the question, Michael. And yes, I'll start by saying that there wasn't anything fundamental or structural or anything that has us concerned. No issues with the supply chain, no issues with material that we have on hand, engineering capacity, manufacturing capacity, we remain in very good shape on all those categories. And it's a great place to be in. We've invested in our capabilities over the past two to three years. We've built out very robust functional capabilities, and they're all working hard supporting our commercial activity. It's just the typical movement that you see in this commercial space, whereas the timing in which customers take the product. A lot of times, we get a forecast from customers. They expect to take the product at a certain quarter. And then as they start to progress all of the site preparation that is needed for the equipment, sometimes our customers run a little bit behind their schedules and their expectations, and they ask us to just hold on deliveries. That's largely what is impacting our timing. Now with that said, we recognize that's not the ideal position to be in. So we are making some modifications to say, terms and conditions in our contracts that fundamentally will help even some of this timing out so that we don't -- or at least the intention is we don't see as much movement from one quarter to next.
Michael Tupholme: Okay. No, that's definitely helpful. Thank you. And then it doesn't sound like it based on what you just described in terms of the drivers to the timing shift to the second half of the year on commercial. But how would you assess the risk of potential further shifting or delays and potentially some of the stuff you expect to deliver and have to somehow not getting delivered in the second half and pushing out into the early part of next year?
Paul Householder: Yes. Thanks, Michael. And as you correctly point out, that's a key element of successfully running a business is to understand what risks are out there, get good visibility to them and then make sure that in our planning, our execution and our activities, we're focused on managing and mitigating those. So we certainly understand what's in front of us. We have such a significant order book in that second half of the year for commercial. So we're very mindful and planful of understanding the risks and making sure that we stay on top of that. We don't fall behind from an execution standpoint, a manufacturing standpoint. The supply chain is very closely tied to our activities so that the material is there when we need it in a very efficient way. And that we're also maintaining that close conversation and partnership with our customers, so that we can mitigate anything on that side of it. And then again, I'll take note that we have made some adjustments in our contracts and our terms largely towards the tail end of Q4 and continued across Q1, which is also squarely aimed at mitigating some of that timing risk.
Michael Tupholme: Okay. That's all very helpful. Thank you. If we -- maybe just in terms of the full year guidance, adjusted EBITDA guidance being maintained, but talking about all of the expected growth coming in the second half of the year, whereas half one adjusted EBITDA being down year-over-year. Just to help with modeling. Is there anything you can sort of offer up in terms of helping us understand the degree to which you would expect half one adjusted EBITDA to be down year-over-year?
Jim Rudyk: Yes. So I think it's a -- the farm in the U.S. is a bit of the thing that we're monitoring closely. From a perspective though, if you look at last year, last year, we had about 54% of our earnings in the back half of H2. This year, we expect it to be slightly more as a result of the weighting towards commercial. And so when you put all that into perspective, while we think it may be down in the first half, it won't be significantly down, but we do expect it to be slightly down, really just because of that shift.
Operator: The next question is from Tim Monachello with ATB Capital Markets. Please go ahead.
Tim Monachello: Hey, good morning.
Paul Householder: How are you doing Tim?
Tim Monachello: Doing great and yourself?
Paul Householder: Good, good. Thank you.
Tim Monachello: Great. Just wanted to follow-up on the guidance. And starting that farm demand, obviously, you've been talking a lot about in this call that you're monitoring that, but what are the assumptions that you have baked into guidance around farm? It sounds like that's kind of -- the outlook there is weakening while commercial remains strong or might even be improving. So like what type of downside have you baked in the farm for the year?
Paul Householder: Yes. I mean it's a great question, Tim. And it is the process that we always go through when we're looking at providing the guidance. It's the process that we've gone through the past two years is the same that we go through this year and ahead of every quarter. And what that process is, is we take a measure of where we're at from our order book. We understand what's going on in all of our markets globally, and we've obviously focused a lot on what's going on in U.S. farm for the right reasons. And then quite frankly, we model out the different scenarios. We look at how the year could play out. And we'll typically look at three -- at least three different scenarios, and then based on that, we position our guidance appropriately. So that's the exact same scenario that we went through and coming up with the guidance that we have and gave us the confidence to reaffirm our full year outlook.
Tim Monachello: So would your base scenario be for growth in farm on a year-over-year basis?
Paul Householder: Yes. When we look at our growth expectations for the year, growth is going to be heavily weighted towards commercial. When you look at our performance, typically, Tim, you go back over the past few years, we've been fairly balanced around 50% farm, 50% commercial, sometimes it's 52%-48%. We expect that as we end this year, it will be further biased towards commercial with the majority of our growth this year delivered from our commercial segment. We can't predict exactly the farm. We've got visibility out three to four months. A lot is going to be dependent on some of those drivers that we're watching, how the crop comes in, what happens to commodity prices. Those are some of the scenarios that we played out to get a pretty good read on it, but fundamentally, as we've noted, the growth is going to be more weighted to commercial this year than we've seen in previous years.
Tim Monachello: Okay. That's helpful. And then on the commercial side, a six to nine-month commercial visibility in order book. Did you get new commercial orders to-date, can you still get them deliver revenue in 2040, do you think?
Paul Householder: Yes. Fantastic question, Tim. And it's one of the things that, again, underscores a bit of our enthusiasm. We had nice order intake across our commercial regions in -- we have a fairly robust pipeline of projects that we're quoting. We expect order intake to be good as well across Q2. And what we would say, Tim, is we are definitely still within the window of being able to win commercial projects, execute and deliver those within the calendar year. So we're still in play of continuing to add projects into the commercial order book that will tangibly impact our 2024 results.
Operator: The next question is from Maxim Sytchev with National Bank Financial. Please go ahead.
Maxim Sytchev: Hi. Good morning, gentlemen.
Paul Householder: How are you doing, Max? Good morning.
Maxim Sytchev: Good. Paul, maybe the first question for you, talking about kind of commercial. As you were rebuilding your order book throughout 2023, do you mind maybe talking a little bit around sort of the commercial terms and how competitive it was to rebuild the backlog just so that we can frame sort of the risk profile of what you're going to be delivering and so forth? So any color would be great. Thank you.
Paul Householder: Yes, great question, Max. One of the things that we like to talk about quite a lot on AGI why we think we are a bit unique is just the diversification that we have in the business. We talk a lot about diversification across farm and commercial as well as geographic diversification. But even within our commercial business, we have extensive product project, customer and market diversification. So if I look into and start peeling the onion on our terms and conditions and the mix and the makeup of that commercial order book, without getting into a lot of specifics, Max, I would say, it's very indicative, it's very consistent on the type of mix that we would see in commercial order book in prior years. Nothing substantially jumps out. We've got a lot of new projects, new customers from the product transfer standpoint. That's getting quite a lot of our attention. We've also won some extremely large -- some of the largest projects we've ever won -- we won those right in our sweet spot of product lines, capabilities, customer base regions. So we've got a pretty good mix of projects within our commercial, I'd say, in aggregate, very consistent terms conditions profile.
Maxim Sytchev: Okay. That's helpful. And then just in terms of kind of drilling down on sort of exposure there. In terms of food, how big of a market is it for you in commercial? Like is it less than 15%? Or how should we think about this?
Paul Householder: Yes. So right now, our food business, which we're extremely excited about. Obviously, it's a growth platform for us, one of two. We highlight both food and digital. Right now, food for us within our commercial, I'd probably say, it's in the 10% to 10% to 12% roughly, Max, and we think that's about how 2024 is going to play out within food. So it gives you an order of magnitude how large it is relative to commercial as well as the total size of the company. That said, we anticipate that the food will continue to grow. The growth in food will outpace growth in other areas, and we see that 10% to 12% increasing as a makeup for the company going forward. A lot of that will be, as you've heard, our strategic premise growing within our very strong existing customer base, but just expanding that out into new regions, bringing and following our customers down in Brazil over to India, then as well, broadening our customer base across core geographies such as North America and Western Europe.
Maxim Sytchev: Okay. Super helpful. Thank you. And then one quick last question for Jim, if I may. So when looking at working capital, potentially some investments there. How should we think about the free cash flow generation in 2024?
Jim Rudyk: Yes. So thanks, Max, for that. So we're still very, very confident in our ability to delever -- continue to delever and get below the 2.5 times level this year in 2024. And there's a number of reasons of our confidence in that. One is our working capital management and discipline remains very high. We've been focusing on those three key metrics to managing receivables, inventory and payables for quite some time now and continue to make very strong progress. That continues to happen, even with our belief that through the next few months anyway, will inventory levels may grow, particularly for us to satisfy our demand in our -- for our commercial business. And so even though we'll have a slightly higher inventory levels for the first -- for the next few months, because our underlying core metrics and working capital management continue to improve, that working capital intensity will get better through the year, which will free up cash to be able to apply to debt repayment. The other aspect of our confidence is in our capital needs. We're very disciplined in what we will spend our money on. Paul outlined our focus on our India expansion, which will continue. We also have our investments in our ERP systems that will happen this year. But outside of those two, we were very disciplined in terms of what we need to spend for a maintenance capital perspective, other growth initiatives and then intangibles. All in, our capital expenditures for the year, we've talked about in the range of between $70 million and $90 million before. That continues to hold. And so when you combine our -- when we put all the aspects to with our growth, our working capital management discipline, and that will result in us freeing up a significant amount of money to be able to pay down debt. And so that, combined with our growth in our EBITDA will allow us to get below that 2.5 times by the end of the year.
Operator: [Operator Instructions] The next question is from Steve Hansen with Raymond James. Please go ahead.
Steve Hansen: Yes, just a quick follow-up, guys. I just wanted to inquire about the services business and where you're at in that rollout. I know it's only year-end since you really talked about it, but that's been an important strategy for one of your larger competitors down south. Just trying to get a sense of where you're at and whether the regional focus in North America towards LatAm? Thanks.
Paul Householder: Yes, that's perfect, Steve. And it is an area that kind of following behind our focus on product transfers, emerging markets and our growth platforms in terms of what's going to drive our growth. Parts and service is directly following that and one that will probably talk more and more about. We obviously have an outstanding parts and service business in India supporting our rice milling business. That is, in many ways, serving as our benchmark as we look to expand and expand that capability globally. Currently, our focus is on North America and it's across both our commercial and our farm segment. We've set up a dedicated team there across 2023. That team is now up and running, and we're making good early progress in our parts and service business in North America. Probably will gain greater traction towards the end of this year, and that will be a more significant talking point for us in 2025. We'll probably expand that initiative outside of North America. The next area that we'll focus on. Steve, as you rightly point out, is down in Brazil. We've been very successful in the Brazil market over the past five years, significant growth down there. And from a timing standpoint, it gets to a good point where there is going to be an increased demand for replacement parts and service as our equipment has been operating in our customer facilities for a couple of years now.
Steve Hansen: Helpful. Thank you.
Operator: This concludes the question-and-answer session. I'd like to turn the conference back over to Paul Householder for any closing remarks.
Paul Householder: Yes. Thanks very much. Really appreciate all the great questions here this morning. We would just like to conclude by congratulating our global team on a very successful safety week that we just wrapped up last week, always excited to see the progress that we're making there. And then just in general, the culture that we now have in place and the collaboration that we see across our One AGI focus is outstanding. So thanks very much. I appreciate the discussion this morning.
Operator: This brings to a close today's conference call. You may disconnect your lines. Thank you for participating, and have a pleasant day.
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